I really love this podcast and found this particular episode very interesting. Although I don’t agree with all of Mrs. Gate’s ideas on the future I think there are some compelling ideas about how technology can play a part in the battle to combat climate change. That said, I wished they’d spent a bit longer on that topic and some of the ideas she delights in TERRIFY me. Give it a listen!
https://art19.com/shows/the-ezra-klein-show/episodes/bfc27e6d-5858-4fe3-a2b7-1ac8f946930d